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		<title>Comment on Through Nepalese Eyes (Satis Shroff) by satisshroff</title>
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		<description>Hi 5Christian,
Greetings from the Schwarzwald. Thanks for the tip.
It's always good to do a bit of social networking. 
Be seeing you soon in your site.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 5Christian,<br />
Greetings from the Schwarzwald. Thanks for the tip.<br />
It&#8217;s always good to do a bit of social networking.<br />
Be seeing you soon in your site.<br />
Regards,<br />
Satis</p>
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		<description>[...] Satis Shroff&#8217;s ZEITGEIST wrote an interesting post today on Goethe: The Last Universal Man (Satis Shroff, Freiburg im Breisgau)Here&#8217;s a quick excerptMoreover, many of his songs and poems were set to music by composers ranging from Mozart and Frederik Schubert to Othmar Schoeck (1886-1957)&#8230;. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Women&#8217;s Rights in a Former Hindu Kingdom (Satis Shroff) by jewelry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Women’s Rights in a Former Hindu Kingdom (Satis Shroff)</title>
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		<description>[...] playstationbackup8386 wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptEthnic Nepalese women sell their own products in the local markets and provide for the family. In other cases, the men give their earnings to their wives and the latter have a feeling of sharing the income, but when it comes to deciding &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Through Nepalese Eyes (Satis Shroff) by goodinfo2</title>
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		<title>Comment on The British and the Gurkhas: Worlds Apart? (Satis Shroff, Freiburg) by satisshroff</title>
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		<description>GURKHA PLEA: The Gurkhas are not seeking the full 22 years service pension of his British counterpart’ pension but merely the equivalent proportionate rate for their rank and service because no Gurkha; with the exception of the Regimental Sergeant Major and Queen’s Gurkha Officers, are permitted to serve for 22 years. Gurkhas are further penalised harshly by the Government/MOD with the introduction of:

a. The “Pre &#38; Post 1997” Gurkha Service Demarcation Line. The simple MOD explanation that the change of “Gurkha Home Base” from Hong Kong to UK to effect this change is bullying of her own troops. 

b. The massive service reduction of “Pre 1997” Gurkha service for “Post-1997” Gurkhas at 3:1 ratio for conversion to the AFPS service is discriminatory. If this is the case then no Gurkha soldier is eligible to don his Falklands Medals, LSGC, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc campaign medals awarded “before” 1997 because they do not quality under the 3:1 reduction of Gurkha service into British service.

c. The GOTT’s unfair “AFPS 22 year service” rule to determine the award of “immediate monthly pensions to Post-1997 Gurkhas” when their “Pre-1997” service had already been reduced by almost 30% toward the AFPS scheme is disgraceful. 

This is also a plea to the “senior” British Gurkha Officers and we expect that they “protect and support” their own Gurkhas, who have been serving the Ministry of Defence (MoD) as an integral part of the British Army.
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FIGHT FOR THE GURKHAS: 

Dear Blogreaders, In case you want to file a petition and send it to the prime minister's office, please feel free to do so. I've sent a petition with this article to the PM (Mr. Gordon Brown), No.10 Downing Street, London to this e-mail address: webmaster@pmo.gov.uk and to foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk. If you want to send a petition for the Gurkhas then you can also file a petition on www.care2com/petitions.
Cherrio for now, more in the next. I've attached an update of the pay-scales (see above) of the Gurkhas as compiled by G. Limbu, a Gurkha  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GURKHA PLEA: The Gurkhas are not seeking the full 22 years service pension of his British counterpart’ pension but merely the equivalent proportionate rate for their rank and service because no Gurkha; with the exception of the Regimental Sergeant Major and Queen’s Gurkha Officers, are permitted to serve for 22 years. Gurkhas are further penalised harshly by the Government/MOD with the introduction of:</p>
<p>a. The “Pre &amp; Post 1997” Gurkha Service Demarcation Line. The simple MOD explanation that the change of “Gurkha Home Base” from Hong Kong to UK to effect this change is bullying of her own troops. </p>
<p>b. The massive service reduction of “Pre 1997” Gurkha service for “Post-1997” Gurkhas at 3:1 ratio for conversion to the AFPS service is discriminatory. If this is the case then no Gurkha soldier is eligible to don his Falklands Medals, LSGC, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc campaign medals awarded “before” 1997 because they do not quality under the 3:1 reduction of Gurkha service into British service.</p>
<p>c. The GOTT’s unfair “AFPS 22 year service” rule to determine the award of “immediate monthly pensions to Post-1997 Gurkhas” when their “Pre-1997” service had already been reduced by almost 30% toward the AFPS scheme is disgraceful. </p>
<p>This is also a plea to the “senior” British Gurkha Officers and we expect that they “protect and support” their own Gurkhas, who have been serving the Ministry of Defence (MoD) as an integral part of the British Army.<br />
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<p>FIGHT FOR THE GURKHAS: </p>
<p>Dear Blogreaders, In case you want to file a petition and send it to the prime minister&#8217;s office, please feel free to do so. I&#8217;ve sent a petition with this article to the PM (Mr. Gordon Brown), No.10 Downing Street, London to this e-mail address: <a href="mailto:webmaster@pmo.gov.uk">webmaster@pmo.gov.uk</a> and to <a href="mailto:foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk">foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk</a>. If you want to send a petition for the Gurkhas then you can also file a petition on <a href="http://www.care2com/petitions" rel="nofollow">http://www.care2com/petitions</a>.<br />
Cherrio for now, more in the next. I&#8217;ve attached an update of the pay-scales (see above) of the Gurkhas as compiled by G. Limbu, a Gurkha<br />
Satis</p>
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		<title>Comment on The British and the Gurkhas: Worlds Apart? (Satis Shroff, Freiburg) « Satis Shroff’s ZEITGEIST by Satis Shroff</title>
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		<description>The British and the Gurkhas: Worlds Apart? (Satis Shroff, Freiburg)

Even though generations of Nepalese soldiers called the fearsome Gurkhas, have fought Britain's colonial and other wars (Falklands, Croatia, Iraq) the Gurkhas don't have the same rights as ordinary British citizens.

It was a magnificent scenario: the proud Royal Scouts led British cadets, Territorial Army and Gurkhas over Waverly Bridge and along Princes Street. The Gurkhas were led by a man in spotted leopard cloak beating a drum, followed by vehicles with armed Gurkhas.

Who are these Gurkhas? You might ask. They are Britain's 3,500 elite soldiers from the small Himalayan country Nepal. These Gurkhas have fought and died with the British Armed Forces for two centuries. This year, according to the Scotsman (news.scotsman.com), Gurkhas have been dumped back in Nepal with a stipend by the thousand. This, after two centuries of fighting your wars for you.They are not, never have been, paid the same as a British soldier. 
When it comes to money-matters, the Brits have always regarded the Gurkhas as cheap labourers and mercinaries that you can recruit in a matter of months, or even weeks. There are always 28,000 young Nepalese who want to join the Royal Gurkha Brigade. Only 200 are chosen annually. What happens to the others? Do they join the Maoists to get battle experience? I knew one named Kunjo Lama who didn't make it at the recruiting depot in Dharan (Eastern Nepal) and worked as a teacher in a Nepalese village in the hills rather than face the ignominy of returning home as the laughing stock of the hamlet dwellers. Losing one's face is something serious in the Nepalese world, and for the Nepalese psyche. But Kunjo made it at the next admissions and even took part in the Falkland War at Port Stanley against the Argentinians.He showed me a photograph from his wallet of himself and his fellow Gurkhas in front of a helicopter, armed to the teeth during the war at the Malvinas. 
Sometime later during a trip to London I saw how the South Asian people were living in London's East End, where the Cockneys use to live earlier, with its brick-houses (Monica Ali's 'Brick Lane'). Nay, the Gurkhas didn't even enjoy the same status as the asylum-seekers from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Jamaica and other former colonies, settled in London's East End or Southhall. The Gurkhas are based in Church Crookham, Hampshire, but they are lucky if they can return to their home country after fighting Britain's wars and police missions in the British Rhine Army, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Borneo, Cyprus, Falklands, Lebanon, Croatia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan. 
To think that so many ethnic Nepalese mothers have lost their sons, and so many children have lost their fathers and sisters their dear brothers fighting for the Glory of Britain, is indeed worth contemplating and discussing about in the London Parliament by the new government.
The Gurkhas, who are ruthless warriors at war, have always been obedient, loyal, disciplined and subordinate to their British officers for 200 years. Their loyalty and bravery have always been unfaltering. Had Indira Gandhi taken the Gurkhas as her personal bodyguards like the Queen of England, instead of the Sikhs, at a time when when the storming of the Golden Temple of Amritsar was a big issue in Punjab and India, I'm sure she would have lived longer. 
But most South Asians think: that's kismat. It was written that she had to die a violent death. Schicksalsdenken. 
A Gurkha serves in the Army a minimum of fifteen and a maximum of thirty years after which they are discharged and obliged to leave Britain for Nepal. No, they aren't allowed to stay on, settle down and enjoy the English countryside with their meagre pensions, as far as English lifestyles and pays-scales are concerned. The British government always uses Nepal's pay-scales as a yardstick to pay off their loyal Gurkhas. Prior to the EU-membership of East Bloc countries, when a Polish worker came to help pluck the strawberries in the vicinity of Freiburg (Germany), they weren't paid the actual rate for west workers in Germany either. Now that the Poles have no zlotys, and are paid in Euros in their own countries, it doesn't seem to be lucrative to go all the way to Germany, with the result that the strawberries get overripe and go kaputt. Ethnic Germans are reluctant to do this back-breaking job under the blazing sun. 
The British Army onced sacked 111 Gurkhas, and as a result the Gurkhas wrote a petition to the Queen of England to help the men who had been sent to Nepal, and to improve the treatment of the Gurkhas (who had after all fought for Britain in the Falklands) throughout the Army. The petition to Queen Elizabeth II was signed: Your Majesty's most obedient servants. The all (sic) ranks of SP 1/7th Gurkha Rifles. 
A question that vexed me is why the Gurkha children have to do the SLC (School Leaving Certificate) exams of Nepal, instead of the GCE 'A' levels, like all school-kids in England? The British government and the Nepalese monarchs never appreciated the importance of better, higher education for the offsprings of the Gurkhas. With British educational certificates and degrees thousands of sons and daughters of the Gurkhas would have had better chances in their lives and would be much better off than their soldiering Dads and brothers. The idea from the start was to put the Gurkhas and their families in ghettos alias barracks or lines, and no attempts were made to integrate them and their families in the British society. 
If a Gurkha would join France's Foreign Legion, they'd be taught the French language and would get a much better status in the French society than the British give to the Gurkhas. I don't want to say alas, but Nepal just wasn't a French colony, though the French managed to come up to an enclave named Pondicherry in India. Nepal has no special relationships with the French but with the British 
There have been isolated instances of Gurkhas involved in recent courtroom skirmishes with the British Ministry of Defence to receive the same pension and conditions as other British soldiers. Whereas an ex-Gurkha received 40,000 English pounds payment from Britain after a court ruling, which was an isolated instance, another Gurkhas claim was rejected by a Nepal court. 'Better to die than be a coward' is the motto of the Gurkha warriors who are an integral part of the British Army. It should run 'better to fight a battle with a good lawyer against the Ministry of Defence than against Britains foes, as we say in Germany: bis die Fronten geklärt sind. 
Britain and its admirable people still have to do a bit of soul-searching on the question of their best friends-in-arms. The officers in the administration and the Defence Ministry think of the Gurkhas still as cannon-fodder and not as humans, at eye-level with the same rights and equality. They still play the game of the Raj: masters and servants. This must not be tolerated and must be put to an end by the new government at 10 Downing Street, for they have gone too far. 
What is the difference between an asylum-seeker and a Gurkha in Britain? In the long run the asylum-seeker gets a British passport, British pay (if he or she's qualified) and British rights and his or her children kindergartens,schools, colleges and universities in Britain, and become a part of the British mainstream. Not so the Gurkhas and their families. 
Due to questionable 'special relations' between Britain and Nepal that haven't been ratified yet, the poor Gurkha and his family have to say goodbye to Britain and head for the barren hills of Nepal. That's the plight of what Sir Ralph Turner MC, 3rd Queen Alexandra's Own Gurkha Rifles, 1931 said, " Bravest of the brave, most generous of the generous, never had a country more faithful friends than you." 
When you think of how true, loyal friends are treated for their faithfulness in even present-day Britain, you can only shake your head or hide in shame. 
During the Falklands War out in the Malvinas under Margret Thatcher's primiership, the British were put in an embarassing situation by Argentina's UN- representative for he accused the British of having deployed 'Gurkha mercinary' troops. The British government demented that and said it had special relationsships with Nepal and that the Gurkhas were its own troops, belonging to and integrated in the British Army. 
But the sad reality is: when a British leutenant saunters by, a Gurkha-Major is obliged to salute him! And not the other way around. This still means that all soldiers are equal in the British or Gurkha army, but some solders are more equal than the others, George Orwell's Animal Farm, which Gurkha school children learn in good English schools in India's Darjeeling and Nepal. In this context it must be mentioned that 45,000 Gurkhas died in the two World Wars under the Union Jack and another thousand since then, even though the Gurkhas were reduced and demobilised to Brigade strength in the British and Regiment strength in the Indian Army. This was after the partition of India in 1947 after an agreement between Nepal, India and Britain, whereby four regiments from the Indian Army were transferred to the British Army, which then became the Gurkha Brigade. 
It's still the white sahib commanding the natives, despite the so-called handsome pensions that the Gurkhas receive, according to Nepalese standards. When I lecture in Switzerland I earn almost 100 Swiss Francs per hour. I think that it's high time that the Gurkhas received the same wages as their British fellow soldiers. Please don't come up with the Sugauli Treaty or 'special relations crap' that dates to the times of Queen Victoria and Junga Bahadur Rana.
I think it's high time that the Gurkhas went to an international court in Strassburg, Belgium and received Flankenschutz from Human Rights Organisations in Britain, Britain Watch, NGOs and whatever. 
If you don't know the impact that the death of a Gurkha can have on his near and dear-ones, then please read the following lyric and think of the plight of the Gurkha mother: 
A GURKHA MOTHER (Satis Shroff)

(Death of a Precious Jewel)

The gurkha with a khukri

But no enemy

Works for the British Gurkhas

And yet gets shot at

In missions he doesn't comprehend.

Order is hukum,

Hukum is life

Johnny Gurkha still dies under foreign skies.

He never asks why

Politics isn't his style

He's fought against all and sundry:

Turks, Tibetans, Italians and Indians

Germans, Japanese, Chinese

Argentinians and Vietnamese.

Indonesians and Iraqis.

Loyalty to the utmost

Never fearing a loss.

The loss of a mother's son

From the mountains of Nepal.

Her grandpa died in Burma

For the glory of the British.

Her husband in Mesopotemia

She knows not against whom

No one did tell her.

Her brother fell in France,

Against the Teutonic hordes.

She prays to Shiva of the Snows for peace

And her son's safety.

Her joy and her hope

Farming on a terraced slope.

A son who helped wipe her tears

And ease the pain in her mother's heart.

A frugal mother who lives by the seasons

And peers down to the valleys

Year in and year out

In expectation of her soldier son.

A smart Gurkha is underway

Heard from across the hill with a shout

'It's an officer from his battalion.

A letter with a seal and a poker-face

"Your son died on duty," he says,

"Keeping peace for Her Majesty

The Queen of England."

A world crumbles down

The Nepalese mother cannot utter a word

Gone is her son,

Her precious jewel.

Her only insurance and sunshine

In the craggy hills of Nepal.

And with him her dreams

A spartan life that kills.

Glossary:

gurkha: soldier from Nepal

khukri: curved knife used in hand-to-hand combat

hukum: Befehl/command/order

shiva: a god in Hinduism

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BRITISH/GURKHA PENSIONS COMPARISON &#38; THE Ministry Of Defence GOTT (AFPS) 

SCHEME FOR GURKHAS (PRACTICAL PROJECT) Compiled by: G. Limbu 

British/ Gurkha
(a)Rank
(b) Total Pre-1997 Service (Years)
(c) Annual Pension in Sterling (£)
(d) Current % Disparity
(e) Pre 1st July 1997 Gurkhas with no Post-1997 GOTT Service
AFPS Benefit Awarded

(Total Affected: Approx. 35,000 Gurkhas)
(f) GOTT Post 1st July 1997 Gurkhas (With a combination of Pre/Post Service as at 30/07/1997)

Total % Pre-1997 Gurkha service ‘REDUCED’ by GOTT for transfer to AFPS Award 
(g) GOTT = Equal British Gurkha Pension?
(h) Gurkha Major (QGO)
 
British PA pension remains £12,114
Gurkha AFPS PA pension £3138
 
Gurkha pensions are converted from Sterling to Indian Currency and converted again to Nepalese currency. The exchange rate as at 26/03/07 is £1.00 = IC 85.0939. The Nepalese Rupee is pegged to the IC at NR 1.60 approx. (Try the above computing exercise).

The above comparison is based on the 2006/07 pension scales for both servicemen (AS IF BOTH SERVICEMENT WERE RECEIVING THEIR ‘CURRENT’ RESPECTIVE RANK SERVICE PENSIONS) because if the “1997 Gurkha Pension Rates” was used to calculate the above “% disparity” between British &#38; Gurkha Pension, the disparity would be unbelievable!! 


GURKHA PLEA: The Gurkhas are not seeking the full 22 years service pension of his British counterpart’ pension but merely the equivalent proportionate rate for their rank and service because no Gurkha; with the exception of the Regimental Sergeant Major and Queen’s Gurkha Officers, are permitted to serve for 22 years. Gurkhas are further penalised harshly by the Government/MOD with the introduction of:

a. The “Pre &#38; Post 1997” Gurkha Service Demarcation Line. The simple MOD explanation that the change of “Gurkha Home Base” from Hong Kong to UK to effect this change is bullying of her own troops. 

b. The massive service reduction of “Pre 1997” Gurkha service for “Post-1997” Gurkhas at 3:1 ratio for conversion to the AFPS service is discriminatory. If this is the case then no Gurkha soldier is eligible to don his Falklands Medals, LSGC, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc campaign medals awarded “before” 1997 because they do not quality under the 3:1 reduction of Gurkha service into British service.

c. The GOTT’s unfair “AFPS 22 year service” rule to determine the award of “immediate monthly pensions to Post-1997 Gurkhas” when their “Pre-1997” service had already been reduced by almost 30% toward the AFPS scheme is disgraceful. 

This is also a plea to the “senior” British Gurkha Officers and we expect that they “protect and support” their own Gurkhas, who have been serving the Ministry of Defence (MoD) as an integral part of the British Army.
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FIGHT FOR THE GURKHAS: Dear Blogreaders,


In case you want to file a petition and send it to the prime minister's office, please feel free to do so. I've sent a petition with this article to the PM (Mr. Gordon Brown), No.10 Downing Street, London to this e-mail address: webmaster@pmo.gov.uk and to foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk. If you want to send a petition for the Gurkhas then you can also file a petition on www.care2com/petitions.

Cherrio for now, more in the next. I've attached an update of the pay-scales (see above) of the Gurkhas as compiled by G. Limbu, a Gurkha  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British and the Gurkhas: Worlds Apart? (Satis Shroff, Freiburg)</p>
<p>Even though generations of Nepalese soldiers called the fearsome Gurkhas, have fought Britain&#8217;s colonial and other wars (Falklands, Croatia, Iraq) the Gurkhas don&#8217;t have the same rights as ordinary British citizens.</p>
<p>It was a magnificent scenario: the proud Royal Scouts led British cadets, Territorial Army and Gurkhas over Waverly Bridge and along Princes Street. The Gurkhas were led by a man in spotted leopard cloak beating a drum, followed by vehicles with armed Gurkhas.</p>
<p>Who are these Gurkhas? You might ask. They are Britain&#8217;s 3,500 elite soldiers from the small Himalayan country Nepal. These Gurkhas have fought and died with the British Armed Forces for two centuries. This year, according to the Scotsman (news.scotsman.com), Gurkhas have been dumped back in Nepal with a stipend by the thousand. This, after two centuries of fighting your wars for you.They are not, never have been, paid the same as a British soldier.<br />
When it comes to money-matters, the Brits have always regarded the Gurkhas as cheap labourers and mercinaries that you can recruit in a matter of months, or even weeks. There are always 28,000 young Nepalese who want to join the Royal Gurkha Brigade. Only 200 are chosen annually. What happens to the others? Do they join the Maoists to get battle experience? I knew one named Kunjo Lama who didn&#8217;t make it at the recruiting depot in Dharan (Eastern Nepal) and worked as a teacher in a Nepalese village in the hills rather than face the ignominy of returning home as the laughing stock of the hamlet dwellers. Losing one&#8217;s face is something serious in the Nepalese world, and for the Nepalese psyche. But Kunjo made it at the next admissions and even took part in the Falkland War at Port Stanley against the Argentinians.He showed me a photograph from his wallet of himself and his fellow Gurkhas in front of a helicopter, armed to the teeth during the war at the Malvinas.<br />
Sometime later during a trip to London I saw how the South Asian people were living in London&#8217;s East End, where the Cockneys use to live earlier, with its brick-houses (Monica Ali&#8217;s &#8216;Brick Lane&#8217;). Nay, the Gurkhas didn&#8217;t even enjoy the same status as the asylum-seekers from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Jamaica and other former colonies, settled in London&#8217;s East End or Southhall. The Gurkhas are based in Church Crookham, Hampshire, but they are lucky if they can return to their home country after fighting Britain&#8217;s wars and police missions in the British Rhine Army, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Borneo, Cyprus, Falklands, Lebanon, Croatia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan.<br />
To think that so many ethnic Nepalese mothers have lost their sons, and so many children have lost their fathers and sisters their dear brothers fighting for the Glory of Britain, is indeed worth contemplating and discussing about in the London Parliament by the new government.<br />
The Gurkhas, who are ruthless warriors at war, have always been obedient, loyal, disciplined and subordinate to their British officers for 200 years. Their loyalty and bravery have always been unfaltering. Had Indira Gandhi taken the Gurkhas as her personal bodyguards like the Queen of England, instead of the Sikhs, at a time when when the storming of the Golden Temple of Amritsar was a big issue in Punjab and India, I&#8217;m sure she would have lived longer.<br />
But most South Asians think: that&#8217;s kismat. It was written that she had to die a violent death. Schicksalsdenken.<br />
A Gurkha serves in the Army a minimum of fifteen and a maximum of thirty years after which they are discharged and obliged to leave Britain for Nepal. No, they aren&#8217;t allowed to stay on, settle down and enjoy the English countryside with their meagre pensions, as far as English lifestyles and pays-scales are concerned. The British government always uses Nepal&#8217;s pay-scales as a yardstick to pay off their loyal Gurkhas. Prior to the EU-membership of East Bloc countries, when a Polish worker came to help pluck the strawberries in the vicinity of Freiburg (Germany), they weren&#8217;t paid the actual rate for west workers in Germany either. Now that the Poles have no zlotys, and are paid in Euros in their own countries, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be lucrative to go all the way to Germany, with the result that the strawberries get overripe and go kaputt. Ethnic Germans are reluctant to do this back-breaking job under the blazing sun.<br />
The British Army onced sacked 111 Gurkhas, and as a result the Gurkhas wrote a petition to the Queen of England to help the men who had been sent to Nepal, and to improve the treatment of the Gurkhas (who had after all fought for Britain in the Falklands) throughout the Army. The petition to Queen Elizabeth II was signed: Your Majesty&#8217;s most obedient servants. The all (sic) ranks of SP 1/7th Gurkha Rifles.<br />
A question that vexed me is why the Gurkha children have to do the SLC (School Leaving Certificate) exams of Nepal, instead of the GCE &#8216;A&#8217; levels, like all school-kids in England? The British government and the Nepalese monarchs never appreciated the importance of better, higher education for the offsprings of the Gurkhas. With British educational certificates and degrees thousands of sons and daughters of the Gurkhas would have had better chances in their lives and would be much better off than their soldiering Dads and brothers. The idea from the start was to put the Gurkhas and their families in ghettos alias barracks or lines, and no attempts were made to integrate them and their families in the British society.<br />
If a Gurkha would join France&#8217;s Foreign Legion, they&#8217;d be taught the French language and would get a much better status in the French society than the British give to the Gurkhas. I don&#8217;t want to say alas, but Nepal just wasn&#8217;t a French colony, though the French managed to come up to an enclave named Pondicherry in India. Nepal has no special relationships with the French but with the British<br />
There have been isolated instances of Gurkhas involved in recent courtroom skirmishes with the British Ministry of Defence to receive the same pension and conditions as other British soldiers. Whereas an ex-Gurkha received 40,000 English pounds payment from Britain after a court ruling, which was an isolated instance, another Gurkhas claim was rejected by a Nepal court. &#8216;Better to die than be a coward&#8217; is the motto of the Gurkha warriors who are an integral part of the British Army. It should run &#8216;better to fight a battle with a good lawyer against the Ministry of Defence than against Britains foes, as we say in Germany: bis die Fronten geklärt sind.<br />
Britain and its admirable people still have to do a bit of soul-searching on the question of their best friends-in-arms. The officers in the administration and the Defence Ministry think of the Gurkhas still as cannon-fodder and not as humans, at eye-level with the same rights and equality. They still play the game of the Raj: masters and servants. This must not be tolerated and must be put to an end by the new government at 10 Downing Street, for they have gone too far.<br />
What is the difference between an asylum-seeker and a Gurkha in Britain? In the long run the asylum-seeker gets a British passport, British pay (if he or she&#8217;s qualified) and British rights and his or her children kindergartens,schools, colleges and universities in Britain, and become a part of the British mainstream. Not so the Gurkhas and their families.<br />
Due to questionable &#8217;special relations&#8217; between Britain and Nepal that haven&#8217;t been ratified yet, the poor Gurkha and his family have to say goodbye to Britain and head for the barren hills of Nepal. That&#8217;s the plight of what Sir Ralph Turner MC, 3rd Queen Alexandra&#8217;s Own Gurkha Rifles, 1931 said, &#8221; Bravest of the brave, most generous of the generous, never had a country more faithful friends than you.&#8221;<br />
When you think of how true, loyal friends are treated for their faithfulness in even present-day Britain, you can only shake your head or hide in shame.<br />
During the Falklands War out in the Malvinas under Margret Thatcher&#8217;s primiership, the British were put in an embarassing situation by Argentina&#8217;s UN- representative for he accused the British of having deployed &#8216;Gurkha mercinary&#8217; troops. The British government demented that and said it had special relationsships with Nepal and that the Gurkhas were its own troops, belonging to and integrated in the British Army.<br />
But the sad reality is: when a British leutenant saunters by, a Gurkha-Major is obliged to salute him! And not the other way around. This still means that all soldiers are equal in the British or Gurkha army, but some solders are more equal than the others, George Orwell&#8217;s Animal Farm, which Gurkha school children learn in good English schools in India&#8217;s Darjeeling and Nepal. In this context it must be mentioned that 45,000 Gurkhas died in the two World Wars under the Union Jack and another thousand since then, even though the Gurkhas were reduced and demobilised to Brigade strength in the British and Regiment strength in the Indian Army. This was after the partition of India in 1947 after an agreement between Nepal, India and Britain, whereby four regiments from the Indian Army were transferred to the British Army, which then became the Gurkha Brigade.<br />
It&#8217;s still the white sahib commanding the natives, despite the so-called handsome pensions that the Gurkhas receive, according to Nepalese standards. When I lecture in Switzerland I earn almost 100 Swiss Francs per hour. I think that it&#8217;s high time that the Gurkhas received the same wages as their British fellow soldiers. Please don&#8217;t come up with the Sugauli Treaty or &#8217;special relations crap&#8217; that dates to the times of Queen Victoria and Junga Bahadur Rana.<br />
I think it&#8217;s high time that the Gurkhas went to an international court in Strassburg, Belgium and received Flankenschutz from Human Rights Organisations in Britain, Britain Watch, NGOs and whatever.<br />
If you don&#8217;t know the impact that the death of a Gurkha can have on his near and dear-ones, then please read the following lyric and think of the plight of the Gurkha mother:<br />
A GURKHA MOTHER (Satis Shroff)</p>
<p>(Death of a Precious Jewel)</p>
<p>The gurkha with a khukri</p>
<p>But no enemy</p>
<p>Works for the British Gurkhas</p>
<p>And yet gets shot at</p>
<p>In missions he doesn&#8217;t comprehend.</p>
<p>Order is hukum,</p>
<p>Hukum is life</p>
<p>Johnny Gurkha still dies under foreign skies.</p>
<p>He never asks why</p>
<p>Politics isn&#8217;t his style</p>
<p>He&#8217;s fought against all and sundry:</p>
<p>Turks, Tibetans, Italians and Indians</p>
<p>Germans, Japanese, Chinese</p>
<p>Argentinians and Vietnamese.</p>
<p>Indonesians and Iraqis.</p>
<p>Loyalty to the utmost</p>
<p>Never fearing a loss.</p>
<p>The loss of a mother&#8217;s son</p>
<p>From the mountains of Nepal.</p>
<p>Her grandpa died in Burma</p>
<p>For the glory of the British.</p>
<p>Her husband in Mesopotemia</p>
<p>She knows not against whom</p>
<p>No one did tell her.</p>
<p>Her brother fell in France,</p>
<p>Against the Teutonic hordes.</p>
<p>She prays to Shiva of the Snows for peace</p>
<p>And her son&#8217;s safety.</p>
<p>Her joy and her hope</p>
<p>Farming on a terraced slope.</p>
<p>A son who helped wipe her tears</p>
<p>And ease the pain in her mother&#8217;s heart.</p>
<p>A frugal mother who lives by the seasons</p>
<p>And peers down to the valleys</p>
<p>Year in and year out</p>
<p>In expectation of her soldier son.</p>
<p>A smart Gurkha is underway</p>
<p>Heard from across the hill with a shout</p>
<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s an officer from his battalion.</p>
<p>A letter with a seal and a poker-face</p>
<p>&#8220;Your son died on duty,&#8221; he says,</p>
<p>&#8220;Keeping peace for Her Majesty</p>
<p>The Queen of England.&#8221;</p>
<p>A world crumbles down</p>
<p>The Nepalese mother cannot utter a word</p>
<p>Gone is her son,</p>
<p>Her precious jewel.</p>
<p>Her only insurance and sunshine</p>
<p>In the craggy hills of Nepal.</p>
<p>And with him her dreams</p>
<p>A spartan life that kills.</p>
<p>Glossary:</p>
<p>gurkha: soldier from Nepal</p>
<p>khukri: curved knife used in hand-to-hand combat</p>
<p>hukum: Befehl/command/order</p>
<p>shiva: a god in Hinduism</p>
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<p>BRITISH/GURKHA PENSIONS COMPARISON &amp; THE Ministry Of Defence GOTT (AFPS) </p>
<p>SCHEME FOR GURKHAS (PRACTICAL PROJECT) Compiled by: G. Limbu </p>
<p>British/ Gurkha<br />
(a)Rank<br />
(b) Total Pre-1997 Service (Years)<br />
(c) Annual Pension in Sterling (£)<br />
(d) Current % Disparity<br />
(e) Pre 1st July 1997 Gurkhas with no Post-1997 GOTT Service<br />
AFPS Benefit Awarded</p>
<p>(Total Affected: Approx. 35,000 Gurkhas)<br />
(f) GOTT Post 1st July 1997 Gurkhas (With a combination of Pre/Post Service as at 30/07/1997)</p>
<p>Total % Pre-1997 Gurkha service ‘REDUCED’ by GOTT for transfer to AFPS Award<br />
(g) GOTT = Equal British Gurkha Pension?<br />
(h) Gurkha Major (QGO)</p>
<p>British PA pension remains £12,114<br />
Gurkha AFPS PA pension £3138</p>
<p>Gurkha pensions are converted from Sterling to Indian Currency and converted again to Nepalese currency. The exchange rate as at 26/03/07 is £1.00 = IC 85.0939. The Nepalese Rupee is pegged to the IC at NR 1.60 approx. (Try the above computing exercise).</p>
<p>The above comparison is based on the 2006/07 pension scales for both servicemen (AS IF BOTH SERVICEMENT WERE RECEIVING THEIR ‘CURRENT’ RESPECTIVE RANK SERVICE PENSIONS) because if the “1997 Gurkha Pension Rates” was used to calculate the above “% disparity” between British &amp; Gurkha Pension, the disparity would be unbelievable!! </p>
<p>GURKHA PLEA: The Gurkhas are not seeking the full 22 years service pension of his British counterpart’ pension but merely the equivalent proportionate rate for their rank and service because no Gurkha; with the exception of the Regimental Sergeant Major and Queen’s Gurkha Officers, are permitted to serve for 22 years. Gurkhas are further penalised harshly by the Government/MOD with the introduction of:</p>
<p>a. The “Pre &amp; Post 1997” Gurkha Service Demarcation Line. The simple MOD explanation that the change of “Gurkha Home Base” from Hong Kong to UK to effect this change is bullying of her own troops. </p>
<p>b. The massive service reduction of “Pre 1997” Gurkha service for “Post-1997” Gurkhas at 3:1 ratio for conversion to the AFPS service is discriminatory. If this is the case then no Gurkha soldier is eligible to don his Falklands Medals, LSGC, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc campaign medals awarded “before” 1997 because they do not quality under the 3:1 reduction of Gurkha service into British service.</p>
<p>c. The GOTT’s unfair “AFPS 22 year service” rule to determine the award of “immediate monthly pensions to Post-1997 Gurkhas” when their “Pre-1997” service had already been reduced by almost 30% toward the AFPS scheme is disgraceful. </p>
<p>This is also a plea to the “senior” British Gurkha Officers and we expect that they “protect and support” their own Gurkhas, who have been serving the Ministry of Defence (MoD) as an integral part of the British Army.<br />
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<p>FIGHT FOR THE GURKHAS: Dear Blogreaders,</p>
<p>In case you want to file a petition and send it to the prime minister&#8217;s office, please feel free to do so. I&#8217;ve sent a petition with this article to the PM (Mr. Gordon Brown), No.10 Downing Street, London to this e-mail address: <a href="mailto:webmaster@pmo.gov.uk">webmaster@pmo.gov.uk</a> and to <a href="mailto:foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk">foiteam@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk</a>. If you want to send a petition for the Gurkhas then you can also file a petition on <a href="http://www.care2com/petitions" rel="nofollow">http://www.care2com/petitions</a>.</p>
<p>Cherrio for now, more in the next. I&#8217;ve attached an update of the pay-scales (see above) of the Gurkhas as compiled by G. Limbu, a Gurkha<br />
Satis</p>
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